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Post by admin on Jan 19, 2007 19:02:03 GMT -5
I made some notes for the left shoulder bell after noticing certain things about it from snowflake's post. With relation to your typical TK shoulder bell, this one doesn't have a flat inner, body-side edge to it. There is a difinite angle inward to the shoulder bell, leaving the top area more open (but, of course, covered by the mantle). Then, there are two possible side edges to the shoulder bell, as denoted by the purple line on the image above. It is either a hard angle, or a soft curve. A soft curve would look better, I must admit, but I can see a hard edge working too. Lastly, there is the flat bottom. Not rounded and fleshed out like the standard TC shoulder bell, this one has a definite cut across the bottom that should be noted. There are some shape concerns I have for this shoulder bell as well. I don't think it's a simple bubble shape. By studying the shadows on all the reference materials, it appears that the sides are, more or less, flat with a rounded center portion. However, the first Sith Snapshot shows a fully rounded shoulder bell.
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Post by youngling on Jan 19, 2007 20:02:55 GMT -5
Hey Captain This is great information! This will help a ton with making my shoulder bell. But could ya hurry and get the right shoulder bell analyzied?! LOL. But hey seriously this will help a ton thanks.
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Post by pghfett on Jan 19, 2007 23:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by admin on Jan 20, 2007 0:24:56 GMT -5
Mike, that's a horrible piece of warped plastic, and I want you to take your garbage elsewhere. j/k That's looking great. Mind sharing with the rest of us what it's made out of? It looks like it's vacuum-formed plastic, but with you, it could be anything.
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Post by Anrev on Jan 20, 2007 22:46:48 GMT -5
Since the GM and BARC's have the same knees, shins, boots, and elbows. It stands to reason that they would have the same shoulder bells too. At least the LH one. Im still doing a modded TB for the right. PGHfett that one looks great!
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Post by mandoman on Jan 20, 2007 22:50:31 GMT -5
I agree with Anrev, I think this one would work great for a GM. Awesome work, PGHFett!
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Post by youngling on Jan 20, 2007 23:41:55 GMT -5
Well I got to say PGHFETT that is one of the most incredible peices of art I have ever seen. I mean truly incredible. BUT I am still going to make one by myself too. The only difference there is going to be is that I am going to make for of some flats sides and I will make a flat bottom too. But that is the only difference. Here is some drawn (not to scale) diagrams of what I am planning to do. sorry forgot to post pic Hey PGHFETT you don't mind me asking do you? Do you have a set of measurements that you could PM me? I mean I don't want to soudn like I am going to steal your stuff but you make such good stuff and I am really bad at making measurements for stuff. So if you had a set of measurements you could PM me that would be great if not I understand. On a different subject I want to point out for all of you guys to see that the GM and the BARC my have the same basic shape and size for their knees but they are different. The BARC has these tiny small little grooves in them while the GM has flat sides with no grooves. just thought I would point that out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2007 1:32:47 GMT -5
I may not have been researching the shoulder bells specifically as long as some/most of you guys, but if you look at Anrev's posted pic the TROOPER'S right shoulder (left to us looking at it) which has an unobstructed view, looks almost IDENTICAL to me to what the captain was going for in his drawing/design schematic and to what I have seen so far on the GMs from the movie...
Also great job pghfett on the nice bell...That is looking SWEET! Keep it up and in a couple weeks SOMEONE is going to have absolutely canon/perfect GM shoulder bells (and barc shoulder bells for that matter too!)...
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Post by pghfett on Jan 21, 2007 6:43:27 GMT -5
Hey PGHFETT you don't mind me asking do you? Do you have a set of measurements that you could PM me? I mean I don't want to soudn like I am going to steal your stuff but you make such good stuff and I am really bad at making measurements for stuff. So if you had a set of measurements you could PM me that would be great if not I understand. I will post the measurement pic's here tonight for everyone. Also, no one ever has to feel like your stealing from me I'll give measurements of anything that is asked of me as long as I made it piece personally. I'm here to help everyone make a great GM costume (including myself) I'm not into the "business" of prop building so it don't really matter to me if I share all my research and/or measurements, hell, half the time you guys come up with great improvments on things and ideas I've had ! We should all build on top of each others progress - this way "we will become better ". I'd even be willing to collaborate with someone here with a VAC table if anyone was interested - pics of measurements will be up later tonight Youngling The BARC has these tiny small little grooves in them while the GM has flat sides with no grooves. just thought I would point that out. I noticed this as well, I belive this to be true as well.
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Post by mandoman on Jan 21, 2007 11:49:20 GMT -5
I'm here to help everyone make a great GM costume (including myself) I'm not into the "business" of prop building so it don't really matter to me if I share all my research and/or measurements, hell, half the time you guys come up with great improvments on things and ideas I've had ! We should all build on top of each others progress - this way "we will become better ". I'd even be willing to collaborate with someone here with a VAC table if anyone was interested - pics of measurements will be up later tonight Youngling This is why I think you are such a great asset to the costuming community. Too many people (although noone on this board) have made great discoveries, but keep them to themselves so they can profit off other's initial lack of knowledge. This hobby is about making the best costume you can make, and helping others do the same, not about making money.
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Post by youngling on Jan 21, 2007 13:21:34 GMT -5
Hey thanks PGHFETT That will help alot. And now that we are on the subject I have to say That I agree with Mandoman Costuming is not about making a great costume and then Making money off of it it is about making a great costume and then helping other people make one like it.
Hey just thought I would elt you guys know that I am really sorry for the fact that I have been slow with making the molds na dI know alot of you are waiting for me to finish them so you can order, I feel like I should explain myself. I been really busy because I have been on an ongoing house painting project with my dad for sometime. The other reason I have been busy is because I have been getting together with my newly organized band. We have been around for only about 2 months or so and we are trying to learn and write songs so I have alos been VERY busy with that. I just want you guys to know that it is not because I have been lazy but because I have been busy and I feel very sorry that alot of you have had to wait.
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Post by youngling on Jan 21, 2007 13:26:50 GMT -5
I'd even be willing to collaborate with someone here with a VAC table if anyone was interested
Hey PGHFETT what did you mean by this?
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Post by mandoman on Jan 21, 2007 13:33:35 GMT -5
I think we all understand we have alot of other things in life that we have to attend to, bro. Can't wait for pics of the progress though!
And on another note, I don't think my last post was taken like this, but just to clarify. My last post was not meant to offend anyone who makes props to sell to others. Because there are alot of people who do not have the time, skill, or equipment to make what they are after, and this is perfectly fine. I was just voicing my opinion on those who have found better ways of doing something, but keep this a secret to profit off of. Everyone here is great, and eager to throw in their opinions, which keeps this project alive and fun.
Now back to the left shoulder bell...
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Post by youngling on Jan 21, 2007 13:45:59 GMT -5
Well I edited my second post with a pic of what I am going to do. Now I do need measurements because to tell the truth I usually undersixe or over size my armor so Measurements would help out a ton (I still can't thank you enough PGHFETT) Then I sure hope this will make a lot of people happy.
On a different note if any of you guys have good pics of the right shoulder bell I would appreciate them and Then I will post my thinking of it in a different topic so we could get that started too.
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Post by pghfett on Jan 21, 2007 15:35:53 GMT -5
I'd even be willing to collaborate with someone here with a VAC table if anyone was interested Hey PGHFETT what did you mean by this? I specialize in FG parts, but I would would be willing to hook up with someone with a good Vac table and send them some of my parts to VAC for everyone. That way we can all have a choice of either Vac'ed plastic or FG - both have their good qualities, for instance, FG parts are easy to assemble and snaps can be glued to fg parts with pretty much any type of adhesive. Plastic parts are light weight and less brittle in colder climates. Hey, Mando - we will all have great GM costumes (not just some of us) if we all work together. Mike
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