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Post by heatshock on May 29, 2012 19:41:56 GMT -5
well its coming to a year since the release of this helmet, thank you to those who have supported me in my little adventure but as with most things... and with continued feedback from the community, its time to revisit ye olde helmet back when I first neared completion of the lid, I must admit I got impatient, and there were things I could accept as I thought it was mostly gonna be a personal lid and maybe a few for close mates. but as you guys have continued to do amazing things with my lids, I thought it was past time I tried to match you enthusiasm with a better helmet. the other interesting development is a potential maker in the US wanting to take this project on for troopers on THAT side of the Atlantic. At the moment - this has yet to be confirmed; and I will let him/her come out when he/she wants too ;P sooooooo I will post up some of the things I didnt like abt my helmet, then you guys pile in. I got thick skin, and its all for the betterment of the helmet - so let rip guys. No offence will be taken!!
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Post by heatshock on May 29, 2012 19:47:03 GMT -5
5 points in my analysis (1) areas of general clean up - originally this part was always going to be covered by a cowl; so I hadnt bothered with a neat finish (2) clean up of this edge (3) the back vent comes too far forward compared to ref pics we never got good pics of helmet, but some some idea an inch? 2 you think? (4) General smoothing and rounding of the dome (5) one other point, the deep indents in the helmet - I think its pretty cool to have em, esp.ly on a 2 part mold. But as a helmet maker - I can tell you its a biatch to cast cos of the deep recesses. How much do you guys like those deep recesses, or would it acceptable to fill em up more? Nate
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Post by redkraytdragon on May 31, 2012 7:45:34 GMT -5
Nate! Looking forward to seeing your new version of this helmet! I think you did a great job on the first attempt (probably much better than mine will be ) I'm amazed at how you got those deep recesses near the cheek area, that must've been it's own pain in the arse all by itself...very good job on that! As for the improvements, I think you pretty much got it all planned out. The only 2 things I can think to add would be to change your seam line to the edge around the skirt and forehead on the helmet (essentially separating the mask area from the helmet dome and the skirt...I've thought about it quite a bit and I think it could conceivably be molded that way in 2 parts...just a theory though at this point)...it'll be pretty much invisible coming out in the casts and will be easier to sand off if you can pull it off. (now that I think about it, that might even help you out with your deep recess issue) The other thing I would recommend (but would probably require a major overhaul on the back of the head) would be to raise the rear vent up about a half inch to an inch. If I remember correctly, I think yours was just a tad bit too low. The bottom edge of the rear vent should line up with the bottom edge of the dome of the forehead (or the top of the eye holes)...hope that makes sense I think your deep recess between the skirt and the cheek looks great and would keep it if you can....I imagine it's probably a lot of wear and tear on your mold though :/ Keep us posted!
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Post by heatshock on May 31, 2012 15:06:21 GMT -5
yeah I have been thinking abt the new seam line as well, still undecided. Making it closer to the place where you suggest, would make the dome nicer, but would probably mean sanding on the raised bit along its entire length..... and its not that tall. Still thinking abt it, cos as you say, the undercuts are real high maintenance.
Now the vents is an interesting discussion. I have moved that up and down several times as was never completely sure where it was. The position it is, is really a compromise that I thought was on the turnaround view (mid eye level?) and the GG galactic marine (lower). Length is definately too long. Also thinking of its width, I think it should be a tad narrower?
thanks for feedback man, just what I was looking for!
Nate
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Post by redkraytdragon on May 31, 2012 18:29:06 GMT -5
You're the best man to know where to put the seam line . I didn't know about the thickness (or thinness?) of the raised edge around the dome. The seam will be more flashing on the raised edge more than anything though, I suspect. Tough decision either way :/ As for the rear vent, I agree with you about the length, should be a bit shorter (I honestly didn't even notice that until you pointed it out lol)...can't say I can tell much about the width as I'd have to go back and look at some more different shots of it. Personally I would go with the turnaround reference shot when going for accuracy, but obviously it's ultimately your decision . I've been using that pic for everything I make so far and am pretty happy with the results, not to mention the feedback I've been getting on the boards. Remember, the GG statue is still an artist's interpretation and prone to mistakes and inaccuracies. Just look at that left shoulder bell, it's got too many loops if I remember correctly (?) Definitely let me know what you think, happy to help out where I can. I may have to hit you up for advice when the time comes for me as well lol
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Post by heatshock on May 31, 2012 22:30:35 GMT -5
no worries man - lmk when the time comes! its these pics that got me confused the vent looks high the vent looks slightly lower here it is with my helmet in mid-phase through the sculpt this is where the other problem arises. In terms of eye-space-vent ration, it looks like the vent should be shorter. BUT just look at the vent length on its own relative to the back edge of the helmet..... and if you shorten it, the vent's length itself looks too short! nice to be re-visiting this again The vent I think, could do with some narrowing too......
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Post by danrodjr on Jun 1, 2012 0:26:01 GMT -5
Dude awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by redkraytdragon on Jun 1, 2012 5:28:28 GMT -5
I agree with you on the vent length, that's very confusing and you'd probably just have to go with your gut or what you think looks best. As for the width, I'd recommend maybe a 1/2" narrower at the most (??)...ANNND you could take it off the bottom thereby raising the vent a little at the same time. I'd say do a mock up to see how it looks before you're committed. Whaddya think?
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Post by heatshock on Jun 1, 2012 12:52:23 GMT -5
Lol great minds mate, was just thinking of doing that on the drive into work. Also have to do it anyways, as it's needed to clean up that lip
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Post by redkraytdragon on Jun 2, 2012 5:00:31 GMT -5
lol awesome bro! Can't wait to see what you come up with
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Post by cjcr12 cesar on Jun 7, 2012 2:06:44 GMT -5
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Post by danrodjr on Jun 8, 2012 22:23:37 GMT -5
Hey Nate can you add a water dispenser and A/C, LOL!!!!
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Post by heatshock on Aug 31, 2012 4:58:30 GMT -5
Right, last call from my GM buds, this will be my winter project. Any ideas and improvements, Lmk!
Nate
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Post by inthedark on Aug 31, 2012 8:05:16 GMT -5
Nate my only suggestion would be small nodules above and below the vent at the back . So as the mesh could attach by means of very small self tapper screws or some form of clips etc. This would enable repairs to be done or mesh to be replace easily Even supplying a resin frame Ie mesh covers vent then frame goes over mesh that is secured by small screws ? . As crazy Dan said a water dispenser A/c and parking sensor to warn us of small kids at our feet
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Post by danrodjr on Aug 31, 2012 15:07:08 GMT -5
I am a visionary!!!!
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