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Post by Tango Fett on Jun 21, 2012 14:07:22 GMT -5
That is exactly why I posted what I posted in the end of my previous message, I somehow suspected about that Marine already being approved. The key would be to ask him/her "when" it was approved?. If it was approved circa 2006, it would somehow make sense. The standard was really low at the time. If it was approved in the last two/three years, there is something wrong with the approval process in that garrison.
If you look closely to the first GMs approved, their accuracy and quality was really low. The evolution of these costumes with such few references is dynamic: although no big revelations with the release of the Blurays, there are constantly improvements being made both by builders as by casters. Remember not long ago when the SGB helmet was the standard, now we have the HS being which happens to be more accurate, the same with RKD/Mr Laws, the backpacks, etc., this is continuously improving, but if you take a look at the first GMs, it is hard to believe how they were approved.
Regarding your friend's answer Phil, I don't agree with him and I'd try to improve it, no matter if it is already approved or not. If you ask me, I'd prefer to have an unapproved good costume than an approved but lame one.
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Post by redkraytdragon on Jun 21, 2012 19:16:22 GMT -5
Really an approved one? ? I'm with you Dan...wow that's kind of shocking actually!
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Post by redkraytdragon on Jun 21, 2012 19:17:38 GMT -5
I don't agree with him and I'd try to improve it, no matter if it is already approved or not. If you ask me, I'd prefer to have an unapproved good costume than an approved but lame one. Ditto!!
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Post by danrodjr on Jun 21, 2012 21:49:06 GMT -5
Triple ditto, wait I started this, wow.... but why did GM like this even get approved prior to 2006? It is apparent that these GM's do not even seem screen accurate. And with all the other costumes that we have and standards we have to meet I still don't understand this. But look now, you can get an approved Death Trooper. (*BLAH*)
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Post by redkraytdragon on Jun 22, 2012 5:42:17 GMT -5
Even if this costume is approved, I believe the owner should take pride and look to make improvements to it to make it more accurate...after all, isn't that a part of what the evolution of costuming is all about?
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Post by Tango Fett on Jun 22, 2012 8:32:00 GMT -5
The approval of the first ones may have been both due to lack of information, experience in judging a totally new costume, and maybe even because the novelty they represented at the time. It may have also happened that for the person responsible for approval, it was cool to have that new costume in the garrison.
For example, when I first saw the two first marines listed in the 501st (coincidentally they were from Germany) I was astonished by how cool they were!. Now with all the knowledge and experience you gain when involved in a project like this, I see them back and I can't believe they were approved.
Although the person who approves should be much more involved than how I was at that time, something similar may have happened to them due to the lack of knowledge of the costume.
Are there "revisions" in the 501st?. I mean, from time to time, do they raise or change the standards for costumes?. We know the GMs are a a little forgotten since the CRL still states the backplate should be white!, but does those revisions exist for other costumes?
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Post by trooper71 on Jun 22, 2012 14:07:29 GMT -5
"I'd prefer to have an unapproved good costume than an approved but lame one."
This is so true !!! I´m proud of mine, and i told him that mine is better than his one..... I used the word "bulky refuse".... *hihihi*
But if my friend doesn´t want to get a fantastic GM (with your help like mine) than nobody can help him. It´s his decision !!!
When i´ve made the changes of the last details on mine GM i´ll post some new pics.
Till then best wishes and MTFBWY Philip
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Post by danrodjr on Jun 22, 2012 22:11:04 GMT -5
I agree with RKD, Tangofett and Trooper71, the pride and honor of wearing an totally awesome GM is the whole point of this groop known as the 53rd FAC. And yes, the CRL's do get updated from time to time for all costumes. And Philip your marine has come a long way and your quest for awesomeness has not gone un-noticed by us here, congrats on your work.
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Post by trooper71 on Jun 23, 2012 2:20:19 GMT -5
Dear Marines.... i´m proud to be a member of this Forum and to be able to call you all my friends. Your support was fantastic all over the time. And you didn´t say a word when i was asking "too much" or perhaps once or twice the same things. My armor is "dirty" now (just ask where i looked how to do, Dan!!) but still no message about the last things to do..... But i will be a full member of the 53rd FAC soon, i promise !! MTFBWY Philip
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Post by trooper71 on Jul 4, 2012 12:23:38 GMT -5
Hi Guys, today i´ve got the news about the "mistakes" on my GM to become not approved..... "The ammo boxes look not finished" "All the rivets are exposed still in the armor even though they are painted over" "The boots i Can´t see very well in the grass" First: see the picture below... i made some new boxes. what do you think? i would prefer the top of the boxes as one line..... you too? Second: any ideas of how to get the rivets "hidden" ? Third: my shoes are nursing shoes with painted sole and the toe armor, like an other one did here in the forum. Do you think this will be another point for denial? Before i forget to mention... the GM i posted the pics of last week was approved in 2009 !!! Yours Philip
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Post by Tango Fett on Jul 5, 2012 8:49:17 GMT -5
Dear Phil, I uploaded this pic for you to see the correct shape of the chest ammo boxes. I understand that different clones have the same box type, so I believe you could take this one as a model. It is the best picture I found regarding ammo boxes.
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Post by danrodjr on Jul 5, 2012 10:25:00 GMT -5
The ammo boxes are close to the clone commander boxes but not the same, here is a ref picture of the boxes.
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Post by danrodjr on Jul 5, 2012 10:25:43 GMT -5
Phil yours are close but no white strip down them.
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Post by Tango Fett on Jul 5, 2012 15:50:45 GMT -5
Dan, the picture above is an official picture or a fan made costume?. Because I believe that except for the colors, the boxes should be the same since they are for the same weapon.
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Post by trooper71 on Jul 5, 2012 23:45:48 GMT -5
thank you guys,
the pics are great. i would try to make the best out of it ......
yours philip
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