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Post by trooper71 on Jan 16, 2012 10:24:39 GMT -5
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Post by Tango Fett on Jan 17, 2012 10:48:21 GMT -5
Hello and welcome to the 53rd, Trooper71,
It would be great if you have a chance to introduce yourself so we can know a little more about you and your costume build.
Regarding the feedback, I don't know if I'm the appropriate person to give my opinion since I have not finished my costume yet, and I'm not in the 501st. So consider my opinion as "secondary" or "non official", if something like that exists.
The first I think is that the approval will depend on your GML.
Anyway, allow me to give my "amateur" opinion, specially on the parts of your armor that I consider may give you more trouble for approval. (Higher res pictures would also help to be more precise about the observations.)
Regarding the helmet, we've seen them in many shapes, so the shape of yours may be within the approvable range. What may be a little too inaccurate are the eyes/lenses. They should be two separate lenses, not a unique "goggle style" lens.
The front pouches seems ok in size, but the "covers" on top of them are different. It should be a simpler cover, sized about 1/3 of the total pouch.
I cannot clearly see the toe or foot armor due to the pic resolution, but it seems they are "regular clonish" style, while each should be only one piece of formed armor, with no strap to attach them to the boot.
I think those are the main issues. But as I said before, I understand that it will all depend on your GML. (not sure about the 501st approval procedure, sorry if I'm wrong)
Now, following with my "non official" opinion, if you'd like to improve your costume, there are other things that could be improved for a better look:
The side pouches seems a little big.
The thigh pockets in the pants should be placed a little higher, about half way between the knee and the waist.
I cannot clearly see the shape of the biceps.
Maybe the front ammo pieces could be placed lower in the belt.
The backpack looks a little big and the shape a little inaccurate. The 4 field pouches, should be hanging from it, not attached to the belt as they seem to be.
So that's my opinion. There are tons of other details that can be checked but I can't with the resolution of the images provided.
I hope my feedback is no discouraging!!.
Best regards and welcome again.
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Post by berzerker on Jan 17, 2012 14:12:55 GMT -5
Let's take this one shot at a time (next time link images - it is way easier to view this way and when you make it easier for us, you'll get more help). Prepare for a frank opinion. I think you'll benefit from it. -Looks like clone shoes. Those have to go in favour of white boots with beige soles. White armour toe caps to cover the top and sides of the boot to the shin armour. -Knees - great -coverall pockets - too narrow and the black snap is out of character -Hey, you put a fly in the crotch. You can pee easily. Nice choice, though not canon. (I can't see that being an issue, though) -kama looks great -belt is too low. It should not go around your waist like a normal belt, but just under the chest armour. -belt pouches seem oversized and out of place. position them better so your front buckles are visible. -put your amp in a pouch to hide it. -dirty up those coveralls. -hand plates and gloves look good -forearms should be seamless -elbows look good -biceps appear to be out of position -shoulder bells are too small. (just way too small) -chest armour should not have a ridge on the lower edge -chest greeblies look out of place - too low. -hide the mic line to your amp under your armour -ammo boxes could be spread a bit better - lower on the armour. -mantle looks good -helmet looks decent though no cheeks on the helmet cowl are visible and the eyes should be distinct, rather than a single lens across the face. DC-15L looks short (should be 55 inches). Might just be the angle. That's all for this front shot. It looks like a great con costume but needs a significant amount of work for 501st approval, IMHO. What reference pics were you using during your build? I'll critique the other angle in the near future.
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Post by berzerker on Jan 17, 2012 17:22:59 GMT -5
Rear. -Shin armour appears to be fabric or vinyl? It should be hard plastic. the straps should be tight fitting with no excess flaps. -dirty that kama up. I looks good, though. i worry it may look too short once you address the belt, though. -backpack looks decent. not right, but decent. It should not be square. the tapered shape of the outer part should be the backpack with side pods and 6 pouches on the bottom - 4 on the rear, 1 on each side. -rear helmet 'vent' should be black. -elbows lack the correct shape. Left elbow detail appears to be there, though. -Other parts have been addressed earlier.
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Post by berzerker on Jan 17, 2012 17:24:50 GMT -5
-torso armour (chest and back) should meet seamlessly on the side. -all other issues address previously.
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Post by berzerker on Jan 17, 2012 17:29:28 GMT -5
-logo should not appear on the stock of the DC-15L and yes, it is way too short. Good news is that a weapon is not required for GM approval in the 501st. -nothing new to address here. Congratulations on your build. It is clear that a lot of time and effort went into it, unfortunately it does not meet, what I would consider to be, minimum standards for approval in the 501st. That said, I am nothing more than a dude who recently finished and received approval on a GM so my critique may not mean much as I am not responsible for approvals. Consult with your GML and come back with specific questions. We can direct you on techniques, suppliers and whatever else related to your build. Good luck.
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Post by trooper71 on Jan 18, 2012 2:45:54 GMT -5
dear tangofett, dear berzerker,
many thanx for your posts.
i started to do some "changes" on my Marine. first of all, i made a new Backpack. (picture will come soon).
Like the TERMINATOR said: " I´ll be back!!!"
Till then best wishes Philip
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Post by Tango Fett on Jan 18, 2012 8:08:03 GMT -5
Good luck with those revisions Trooper, and we are here waiting for them and/or for any question you may have.
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Post by berzerker on Jan 18, 2012 8:19:15 GMT -5
dear tangofett, dear berzerker, many thanx for your posts. i started to do some "changes" on my Marine. first of all, i made a new Backpack. (picture will come soon). Like the TERMINATOR said: " I´ll be back!!!" Till then best wishes Philip Good luck. You have the right attitude. We'll be here when you need us. Let us know what ref pics you are using.
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Post by danrodjr on Jan 20, 2012 0:24:16 GMT -5
Good luck on your revisions, and as Berzerker stated, good attitude, and we are here to help, by all means let us know if you need anything, and use this board for all the info and ref's we have listed here. Can't wait to see your further progress!!!
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Post by trooper71 on Jan 20, 2012 15:03:33 GMT -5
Hello again, many many thanks for all your advice and help. here´s what i´ve done the last days.... my new backpack !!!! imageshack.us/photo/my-images/718/pict0227e.jpg/not already weathered yet, but soon. The small pouches are attached to the backplate, not to the belt. what do you think ?? thanx and greetings from germany trooper71
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Post by danrodjr on Jan 20, 2012 23:14:56 GMT -5
Getting alot better, I'm just wondering what ref's pics and stuff you are looking at, below is my BP so you can look at the size differences and bottom pouch placements.
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Post by trooper71 on Jan 21, 2012 4:09:16 GMT -5
Hello,
the ref for this backpack was an "approved" one by another GM. The pouches under the Backpack are replaced n the next days i think.
Thanx for watching and writing. Keep on doing. Your help is excellent. Thank you.
Cheers trooper71
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Post by Tango Fett on Jan 23, 2012 8:56:07 GMT -5
I think it looks better now, the shape is more accurate, but can't tell you if it is accurate enough for approval. Most backpacks out there are more accurate. The one I'm building is also more accurate, so there is more accuracy you can reach if you want to try.
And regarding references, allow me to share with you something that I have learned the hard way (because it is making me re-build many parts of my armor, including my helmet!!) and I can't stress it enough: DO NOT TAKE REFERENCES PICS FROM OTHER BUILDS, even if they are approved by the 501st. IMO, other builds may become very handy for "inner parts", or to see how other marines have resolved issues like attaching the armor, assembly, or so, but for the shapes, sizes and proportions, please refer to: first, the movie (I know, I know, just a few frames and not very clear), and in second place, the "official" reference pics (360º turnaround, Sith snapshot, action figure back card, etc.). I know they are all in lo res and many parts are really hard to see, but they are the only accurate images around there. All this, specially if you are building from scratch, where you may able to even improve what's already there.
Good luck and forgive me/us if we are becoming a little picky.
And as you have already noticed, we are here for any question.
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Post by trooper71 on Jan 23, 2012 16:25:59 GMT -5
hello there, once again me...... Tango Fett: no, i´m not angry about what you´ve been writing. of course not. i need the help of you all to get a great GM to wear. today i started to build new pouches down on the backpack. pics will come when i finishes this "action". also arrived the new helmet today.... i´ll start cutting and painting next week. one step after the other. hope you all have the patience to watch all my pictures and to write some comments when i post them. yours and thanx philip
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