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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2007 0:09:24 GMT -5
I just acquired one of PA's SWEET DC-15s carbine kits this week(still assembling) and I had a neat thought...When you see sniper rifles (real or fictional) they are almost ALWAYS a LONG rifle...I was thinking about (eventually) getting another DC-15s kit from PA and adding a longer PVC barrel (on the tip NOT where the PVC with the ribs are on his) after shaving off some of the barrel tip/end and at the end of the longer PVC I add, putting a box (similiar to a .50 cal placement's flash suppressor box thingy at the barrel end) to it...Then adding a bi-pod to the sides and MAYBE a little add-on stock...Any thoughts?
I will draw up my idea (just for everyone's reference) and post it this weekend)
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Post by admin on Feb 2, 2007 1:08:59 GMT -5
A carbine, by nature is not a ranged weapon, real or otherwise. The M4 Carbine, for example, is best used at short to medium ranges, and the DC-15C is the SW equivilent to it, if not a smaller weapon. The thing that makes carbines unfavorable as sniper rifles is the rate of fire, vibration, and round size. A single-burst from a carbine is not it's choice rate of fire, so it would be used ineffectively and used against it's design. But when you increase the rate of fire, the accuracy on target decreases after each round leaves the barrel. So turning it into a sniper rifle doesn't just mean inches off target, you're talking feet off target, if the rounds reach the target. Then you have to consider the range of the bursts. As previously stated, carbines are short to medium ranged weapons. So a longer barrel isn't going to matter, since it's the basically size of the round that determines the range. For that last statement above, you can make the following Star Wars parallel: Bigger gun, longer range. A carbine won't shoot farther with a longer barrel. That's why you see the BARCs on the Kashyyyk beach front armed with Carbines, and the ones way up in the trees with the long rifles. So from what you're saying, you basically want to turn a DC-15 carbine into a DC-15 long rifle, but not have it look like a long rifle. There is a sniper rifle alternative that is known in the Clone Wars. The DLT-19 is used in both Battlefront games as a sniper rifle by both Biker Scouts and clone snipers. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DLT-19_heavy_blaster_rifleJust wanted to let you know the factors that are going against a carbine sniper rifle idea. It's basically a matter of practicality. EDIT: Also wanted to add that carbines have short barrels for a reason. The high rates of fire cause vibrations throughout the gun. THe less time rounds spend in the gun, the better the gun is. So putting a long barrel on a carbine - if the intended use is for sniping with high rates of fire - will only tear the gun apart. Now I will say that a bipod on a DC-15 long rifle looks mighty fine. So if you want to sniper it up, perhaps use the carbine as your backup gun and invest in a long rifle or a MG-34 (for conversion to DLT-19) for the sniper. You'll end up with a more realistic end costume. But back to carbine mods for a moment. What about a flash supressor or sound supressor on the tip of the carbine? Or perhaps a front grip or flashlight? I was considering mounting a flashlight onto my carbine for a while, then I got my Verpine and focused on that. .. But do what you will, and enjoy it. That's what it's all about.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2007 7:06:30 GMT -5
I wrote PA after getting my carbine kit and told him that I hope he was intending on making a DC-15A (long rifle) sometime...Because, at this point, there is nothing out there that I really like for it...The cushman one...ugh...I will just say that I don't like the cushman one...And my homemade one that I have been working on and hopefully will finish someday, well, it's not much better so far...
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Post by ianl on Feb 2, 2007 13:40:14 GMT -5
Unfortunately all the makers I know who make the resin long DC-15's I wouldn't send my money to, or are not making them anymore. The resin models went for $350 new, so there's a market for them if someone wanted to take the ball. As for the Cushman, well you get what you pay for. People have made nice mods to them, but overall it's a poor plastic pull of a rifle. What we really need is a Hyperfirm DC-15L I would love to see one of those made.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2007 16:00:59 GMT -5
that would be nice...I am just waiting for PA to do one...His carbine is REALLY sweet...And if he puts as much into a DC long as he did with his DC carbine, I think that it would turn out nicely...
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Post by ianl on Feb 2, 2007 16:31:52 GMT -5
I don't know what they told you, but PA has PLENTY on their table. I wouldn't hold your breath for the near future.
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Post by admin on Feb 2, 2007 19:39:11 GMT -5
I actually plan on getting a Cushman one of these days just because of the sweet mods you can do to it. They claim it's for those people that don't want to put a lot of work into it, but it's actually a gun for those super-skilled people that want to go all out on one. Not saying I'm one of the "super-skilled people," but I'm always up for a challenge to improve my skills.
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