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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2007 22:33:56 GMT -5
In the top image to this thread, it seems to me that there is indeed a border, it's just not white. It looks like the border is the same color as the kama, but there is a definite seam line between the edge and the rest of the kama, indicating some sort of border (colored, same, or otherwise). I was just thinking that instead of this being a separate border, maybe (for OUR purposes) it is just a stitch/sewn line...Like, not anything EXTRA (another piece over it) there, just a sewn line to make it LOOK like there is another piece...This would be VERY easy to make with our kamas...
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Post by admin on Jan 24, 2007 22:45:50 GMT -5
The issue there is how noticeable you want it to be. If it's just cloth, you'll need to bulk it up a bit if you want it noticeable. If it's vinyl, you'll want to end up making the border a separate piece (or at least fold the edge over) so your kama's edges won't be ugly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2007 22:59:38 GMT -5
oh I see...that makes sense...I was personally thinking about getting the vinyl a little bit thinner if that is possible and getting the colored side (outside of yours) and doubling it up with an edge piece for the outside edges...I guess, the best way to explain that is to say that I may get two separate pieces of vinyl and connect them back-to-back with each other and cover the edge...I was thinking about doing it that way, for looks AND for weight...I might move a little easier (more like movie) if it was a little heavier...I get paid Friday and my friend Jimmy and I are going to Jo-Ann's and I am going to get some vinyl so I can have at least ONE finished piece of my GM suit!
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Post by admin on Jan 24, 2007 23:22:50 GMT -5
For a heavier kama, be sure to have a belt that will hold it up. My kama is a single layer, and it's fairly heavy. Mine is attached to my undersuit with velcro, but it also has an elastic waist band that was converted from a pair of suspenders.
So for a heavier belt, I'd actually recommend including some belt loops at the top that you can slide onto a normal belt that would then be hidden by your GM belt.
Weight should be a big concern for these kinds of things because your gear will shift on you throughout an event, and a heavier kama means it might slip down or even fall off if it isn't secured in place properly.
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Post by mandoman on Jan 24, 2007 23:39:49 GMT -5
I was thinking about how to secure the kama better, and while walking through JoAnnes, I saw this snap tape stuff. It's basically a long strip of fabric with a series of snaps on it, and another strip with the other side of the snap. Maybe one side could be attached to the inside of the kama, and the other on the undersuit? That might help keep it in place if it's heavier. I've actually never used the stuff, but someone else might have more knowledge.
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Post by admin on Jan 25, 2007 2:07:03 GMT -5
Mandoman, that's an excellent idea, but as I am not very familiar with it, some more in-depth info-seeking is needed.
I saw this stuff very briefly the other day when I went scouting for material for future projects. I didn't get a close look at it, but the snaps used on these strips may not be able to hold up the kama very well. These kinds of snap strips are used in hand-sewn shirts and jackets primarily just to close up a portion of the clothing (shirt front, collar, etc), so they are not weight-bearing snaps by nature of their intended use. However, like I said, I haven't seen them up close before, so I don't know if they have various grades of snaps or not.
Regardless, snaps are a very good option to consider. As far as pros and cons go, they may not have the surface area you can achieve with velcro, but perhaps their best characteristic is that you gain exact placement of the item, each and every time. Whereas with velcro, although the hold is generally more secure (if enough velcro is used), you may not get the parts lined up perfectly each time. Of course, at that point, it really just is a question of whether or not this concerns you.
Either way, the snaps you'll want to look for (should you choose this option), will be high-grade, stainless steel snaps. If you get them just as snaps, you can find them as kits with the snap applicator plier things, or you can get them as just the snaps (they typically come with a hammer-on applicator).
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Post by mandoman on Jan 25, 2007 7:49:58 GMT -5
I'll have to check to see if they have different grades of snaps. I only remember seeing one kind, but I could be wrong. If they don't turn out to be a viable option, I might be turning to velcro.
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Post by ianl on Jan 25, 2007 8:07:56 GMT -5
Good point about the weight of the kama. I'm thinking I might be ok, since I actually have something resembling hips to carry the weight.
One thing I learned about snaps is that they aren't adjustable, so you need to use them in places that aren't likely to change over time. Things like your shoulder bells and biceps. Velcro is a lot more forgiving especially if you gain or lose 5 lbs your belt and stuff can still fit. I used snaps on my TS belt and it's a PITA to get it lined up and connected securely.
Also if you use snaps ir velcro, be aware of the underlying material. If you snap it directly to your jumpsuit/undersuit, it will have the tendency to drag down on you. Try to connect it to something firm, like a set of suspenders, or your armor, that will be able to carry the whole weight.
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Post by snowflake on Jan 25, 2007 9:12:38 GMT -5
very nice find!
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Post by pghfett on Jan 25, 2007 11:01:28 GMT -5
Any chance for a quick sketch or pics of methods used to attach the kama ?
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Post by dsdude9 on May 10, 2007 22:43:08 GMT -5
Hey guys, I just thought I'd add my finds. The are all the same CG models, Weathering etc (except for the white striped one. Also I one with the stripe has a DC 15 short blaster so he could be a medic of some sort.
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