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Post by Anrev on Nov 9, 2006 19:22:16 GMT -5
So lets get a consensus on these. I think they look more like TB bells than TC bells. I'm going to use TB bells and cut them down a little. But what is with the ridges on the right bell? Anyone got a better pic? Here is the toy. You can see them real well here. Maybe they have a regular TC on the left and the different one on the right?
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Post by pghfett on Nov 9, 2006 19:27:11 GMT -5
The ridge detail seems to appear -sometimes- on each pic I see. As with most images, it doesn't appear to be a consistant thing.
Dave, can explain the 1st pic and how the shoulder pauldron appears to merge with the shoulder bell. He posted something about this in another thread.
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Post by admin on Nov 9, 2006 19:42:54 GMT -5
Stop showing the GM figure! I can't concentrate! GAH! SO HAWT! Nnnnghhhh....
In the first pic, we see the unique right GM shoulder bell with those funky little ridges on it. THAT should be fun to sculpt. T_T We don't get to see the top portion of it, so we can only assume that the tops of those little ridges look like the bottoms. This shoulder bell is indeed shaped somewhat like the TB shoulder bell, but of course, for accuracy, some custom shaping would be involved.
As for the ridge details showing up sometimes, I can answer that they are there. Keep in mind the "natural" lighting ILM put in the Mygeeto scene, and the matte finish to the GM armor, and you'll quickly realize that details are lost in just the shading of the scene. Then take into consideration how low to the surface of the shoulder bell the ridges are, how thin they are, how many there are, and the details are even further blurred. THEN consider we're looking at moving objects, so crisp details will be blurred by the nature of motion. Why must we be blessed with such ambiguity, ILM? I love it!
The left shoulder bell appears to match that of the camo 41st Elite clone ("BARC Trooper"). They share knees, shins, and boots, so the non-custom shoulder bell matching the BARC shoulder bell makes sense. The proof we have of it is totally subjective, of course, but just take a look at the second Sith Snapshot. If you are able to look past the camo on the 41st guys, you can certainly see similarities. I'm personally considering them a match until we have evidence that says otherwise. However, the left shoulder bell clearly is not a normal TC bell, hence my insistance on not using them on CTN when I was building my suit.
Yeah, as Mike reminded us, in the first Sith Snapshot (first pic), we do see the left shoulder pauldron merging with the left shoulder bell. This is a 3D glitch which gave us some trouble when determining the shape of the shoulder pauldrons. It also occurred on the back of the more recent release of the Commander Bacara action figure, where it showed several GMs running up, and there was a neat looking pattern on their shoulder pads. There was a suggestion/joke going about CTN that this should be painted on, and it's something I'm considering doing when I make my own set of FG GM shoulder pauldrons just for shits and giggles. So yeah, consider the shoulder pauldrons to be highly buggy in the movie since they are CGI models. Refer to the second Sith Snapshot for their accurate shape.
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Post by pghfett on Nov 9, 2006 20:00:00 GMT -5
On an added note, I'm sculpting the shoulder bells and knees for my BARC so hopefully these will be molded up soon, that is unless someone else is working on these, which I would be VERY grateful for and would love to get a set LOL
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Post by youngling on Nov 9, 2006 20:57:23 GMT -5
Hey just so everyone knows (especially you pghfett) I am sculpting a set of Gm shoulders and shins/calfs tommarrow. They will be vaccumformed.
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Post by admin on Nov 9, 2006 21:21:57 GMT -5
You are probably going to encounter difficulties with the right shoulder bell. The ridges are fine detail and would likely have to be glued onto the surface of the vacced part, since it's very likely that you wouldn't get such crisp detail since the ridges are very very thin. So you may consider vacforming the base shoulder bell and including a sheet of extra ABS with the ridges drawn out on it (make a template) so the buyer can cut them out and heat form them to the part and glue them on themselves. That's how I'd do it. But I'd be interested in a set.
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Post by youngling on Nov 9, 2006 21:32:38 GMT -5
That is a good Idea I will include extra plastic. How fine is this detail? Will it include lots of bondo usage do you think? I will show off my finished pics tomarrow so be waiting for it.
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Post by admin on Nov 9, 2006 22:06:16 GMT -5
Just take a look at the first pic in this thread. You can get a glimps of how fine the detail is. It's almost like a clothes hanger. It would would sharp to have actual metal wire there bent specifically into those shapes, but I imagine that would get quite expensive.
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Post by pghfett on Nov 9, 2006 22:29:49 GMT -5
Hey just so everyone knows (especially you pghfett) I am sculpting a set of Gm shoulders and shins/calfs tommarrow. They will be vaccumformed. I hear you loud and clear - I too would be interested in a set as well.
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Post by ianl on Nov 10, 2006 7:17:58 GMT -5
Sounds awesome guys. I was planning on using a modified TB bell for my GM as well, but if we can get some custom sculpted ones, I'm all for it. Put me on the list as interested please! (For all your GM parts)
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Post by youngling on Nov 10, 2006 20:49:29 GMT -5
Allright I got the parts sculpted for the most part but i couldn't get any plaster so i couldn't vaccumform tonight. Tomarrow hopefully I will get some plaster and I will post pics of the peices If you guys are serious about buying a set PM me with an offer.
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Post by snowflake on Nov 13, 2006 21:28:40 GMT -5
I posted this pic on CTN... whit a bit of imagination you can see the actual ridges on screen
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Post by admin on Nov 13, 2006 21:31:38 GMT -5
You know, I think I just might take Leeran's (?) joke suggestion and paint that CG bug onto my shoulder pauldron, or make an extra one to do that with. It looks like a fun little gimmick!
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Post by snowflake on Nov 13, 2006 21:41:15 GMT -5
LOL!!! Do it and you will be my personal hero... again!
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Post by pghfett on Nov 17, 2006 17:08:47 GMT -5
Any progress on the vac'ed parts yet and that shoulder bell on the figure is it a "official" that this is what the shoulder bell should be incorporated into a working costume? Just need to clarify this and I cannot wait for the Figures release !!!!!
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